tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post269863001365073766..comments2023-11-30T08:25:58.543+08:00Comments on Vicsforum - One man's forum: Vic - 高牆與雞蛋 共匪與港人Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-13165721579183795982013-12-12T12:40:29.486+08:002013-12-12T12:40:29.486+08:00村上大叔會說出那番話..該是以目前的時空背景為前題(或假設)吧...至少到目前為止鮮少出現雞蛋邪惡過...村上大叔會說出那番話..該是以目前的時空背景為前題(或假設)吧...至少到目前為止鮮少出現雞蛋邪惡過高牆啊是吧!..(雖然那高牆曾為雞蛋所築<br />Joanne.丁https://www.blogger.com/profile/02302758138148448862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-40578983263776476812013-08-14T12:15:49.007+08:002013-08-14T12:15:49.007+08:00I agree that everyone should be treated the same.
...I agree that everyone should be treated the same.<br /><br />Regarding the case of 陳玉峰, please see this and other entries in the blog:<br />http://billsiu.blogspot.com/2013/07/blog-post_586.htmlCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-8789201670240479682013-08-14T11:19:54.773+08:002013-08-14T11:19:54.773+08:00警方對泛民的檢控是絕不手軟的, 而且會追溯到幾年前, 兼用「低調通輯」手法, 希望對青關會愛字頭也一...警方對泛民的檢控是絕不手軟的, 而且會追溯到幾年前, 兼用「低調通輯」手法, 希望對青關會愛字頭也一視同仁<br /><br />【經濟日報】「佔領中環」秘書處義工、現為見習律師的陳玉峰,涉於兩年前的七一遊行非法集會,前日被警方拘捕<br /><br />【明報專訊】人民力量黃毓民、陳偉業及陳志全,前年7月1日晚上堵塞中環馬路,被控非法集結等罪名Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-7320750175266941362013-08-13T21:12:41.427+08:002013-08-13T21:12:41.427+08:00For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz0JE3...For example:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz0JE3uSMjICnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-86272473706993656562013-08-10T20:08:36.527+08:002013-08-10T20:08:36.527+08:00通街屙屎屙尿也可以「包容」, 為什麼一兩句粗口不可以「包容」, 有潔癖的人是不是雙重標準呢 ? 但這...通街屙屎屙尿也可以「包容」, 為什麼一兩句粗口不可以「包容」, 有潔癖的人是不是雙重標準呢 ? 但這又會犯了「歧視」大罪, 唔夠國際化, 點算好呢 ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-60337846524273195572013-08-10T13:03:57.867+08:002013-08-10T13:03:57.867+08:00警察有法定權力, 有執法武器, 相對林老師, 警察是高牆, 除非面對解放軍坦克, 那時警察就是雞蛋
...警察有法定權力, 有執法武器, 相對林老師, 警察是高牆, 除非面對解放軍坦克, 那時警察就是雞蛋<br /><br />林老師只是在旺角場景中的角色, 要講到對抗中共邪悪這麼大的場面, 擔頭炮的是13億中國人, 在小香港有支聯會, 六四集會有幾十萬人, 咁大責任唔好屈個師奶仔啦Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-47761954564311872082013-08-10T10:58:55.684+08:002013-08-10T10:58:55.684+08:00別忘記,警察都是雞蛋,林老師都是雞蛋。觀看外國警察執法的情況,香港的警察己經分斯文。
如覺得中共邪...別忘記,警察都是雞蛋,林老師都是雞蛋。觀看外國警察執法的情況,香港的警察己經分斯文。<br /><br />如覺得中共邪悪,有膽的,理應發動革命,上北京「問候公安」,而非在香港辱罵不會還手的警察。<br /><br />林老師這只不過是匹夫之勇,除了情緒發洩,我亦聽不出她那一句是仗義執言,連一個簡單的道理也說不上來,只顧不停辱罵Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-61007082612089467772013-08-09T20:50:21.532+08:002013-08-09T20:50:21.532+08:00經過這十幾日, 大家審視整件事始末後, 給她見義勇為仗義執言的評價, 是因為她站出來, 指出警察處理...經過這十幾日, 大家審視整件事始末後, 給她見義勇為仗義執言的評價, 是因為她站出來, 指出警察處理不當Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-53190303717749872642013-08-09T20:37:39.393+08:002013-08-09T20:37:39.393+08:00那人民力量等組織干預政府和泛民活動又怎樣?
可否舉一兩件具體事例, 討論不至於太空泛那人民力量等組織干預政府和泛民活動又怎樣?<br /><br />可否舉一兩件具體事例, 討論不至於太空泛Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-85992277696998300592013-08-09T18:43:27.805+08:002013-08-09T18:43:27.805+08:00那人民力量等組織干預政府和泛民活動又怎樣?也是違法嗎?要警察依法辦事嗎?做人不可輸打嬴要喎。那人民力量等組織干預政府和泛民活動又怎樣?也是違法嗎?要警察依法辦事嗎?做人不可輸打嬴要喎。Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-1935355290638928632013-08-09T18:39:22.572+08:002013-08-09T18:39:22.572+08:00「林老師是見義勇為仗義執言的小英雄」
-- 可惜其言只是無理取鬧,也不見得有英雄之處。可否指教一下...「林老師是見義勇為仗義執言的小英雄」<br /><br />-- 可惜其言只是無理取鬧,也不見得有英雄之處。可否指教一下?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJwmwlklI2wCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-9955263468240385972013-08-09T16:31:24.061+08:002013-08-09T16:31:24.061+08:00That is an illogical argument. The police enforce ...That is an illogical argument. The police enforce the law and if they don't think a law has been violated, they cannot and do not have the mandate to act on it: They don't and can't just arrest people without a lawful reason and let the court sort it out.<br /><br />If everything has to be decided by a judge before one can or can't act, then the court will be overloaded with cases and people would not be able do anything in a timely fashion.<br /><br />It does not matter what the court would decide. Whatever your claim is, you need to support it with evidence and strong argument. You could be right and the court wrong.<br /><br />What you are saying is basically this: "I cannot decide whether something is correct so I'm just going to let the court decides it for me."<br /><br />You have committed at least two fallacies: appeal to possibility and appeal to authority. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-62667715287878451122013-08-09T14:32:22.718+08:002013-08-09T14:32:22.718+08:00see below :
http://cn.nytimes.com/china/20130808/c...see below :<br />http://cn.nytimes.com/china/20130808/c08tatlow/zh-hant/<br /><br />http://cn.nytimes.com/china/20130808/c08tatlow/en-us/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-2198819164341809642013-08-09T13:48:41.011+08:002013-08-09T13:48:41.011+08:00Whether 青關會 has violated the law or not, it has no...Whether 青關會 has violated the law or not, it has not been decided in a court of law, and you can have your view on that. I cannot see why the police did not take the case to court. <br />When the commission of police said that the 4AUG event was not a political event, you can believe him, but then again should it not be decided by a judge.<br />When CY Leung came out to declare that MP Chan has done everything according to the rules, perhaps there are some who doubt if it will stand in a court of law.<br />The question is what can people do if they disagree with what the top officials are doing ? Nothing right ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-6019449209599517882013-08-09T11:59:50.220+08:002013-08-09T11:59:50.220+08:00這班親建制偽民間暴力組織不時侵犯法輪功, 干預法輪功的活動, 說它們的行為不違法絕對是罔顧事實. 當...這班親建制偽民間暴力組織不時侵犯法輪功, 干預法輪功的活動, 說它們的行為不違法絕對是罔顧事實. 當然, 警察不執法, 不撿控, 它們就永遠算作不違法, 一旦警察依法辦事, 帶它們上法庭, 相信法官不會讓它們逍遙法外.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-84153231179396670132013-08-09T10:37:42.097+08:002013-08-09T10:37:42.097+08:00警察不分隔青關會和法輪功, 就是錯了, 警察有法定權力和責任, 分隔可能起衝突的雙方, 避免出現暴力...警察不分隔青關會和法輪功, 就是錯了, 警察有法定權力和責任, 分隔可能起衝突的雙方, 避免出現暴力, 而且青關會是在妨礙法輪功的表達自由, 是主動挑釁, 警察不是偏坦是什麼 ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-69185738388006081602013-08-09T04:46:01.202+08:002013-08-09T04:46:01.202+08:00不說其他,單説邏輯。文章只是用道德價值觀,先定下結論再去找原因評論這件事,而不是根據現實的法律去考慮...不說其他,單説邏輯。文章只是用道德價值觀,先定下結論再去找原因評論這件事,而不是根據現實的法律去考慮對林慧思、警察的支持反對是否正確,這叫做shoehorning fallacy。用價值觀去評論,評什麽都容易,只要不符合價值取向,就必然是錯的,結果就是自己說什麽都必然是對的。不能證錯的論述,在邏輯與科學上等同廢話。<br /><br />這種想法的危險性在於香港是個開放社會,就算某些事情不應受認同,社會也要按照法律去讓人表達。在法律上,青關會的行爲雖然可嚴,但沒有去到違法的地步,沒有法律根據卻要警察執法,是將法治與開放社會的原則連根拔起。這樣子跟共產黨的做法有什麽分別?反對共產黨就做什麽都是對?<br /><br />村上春樹有個盲點,就是他不問什麽是正確。體制正確的話,有什麽雞蛋可言?法律判刑,你個人不認同,難道就是邪惡的高牆去迫害脆弱的雞蛋嗎?你可以說法律是錯,如果你的論述正確,我可以認同你,但你不能單是因為你不滿意某個結果就說法律是錯。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-86537883883790314292013-08-08T23:53:51.383+08:002013-08-08T23:53:51.383+08:00明辨是非才會有勇氣, 殺人越貨需要的是心黑手辣, 什麼人會連這麼顯淺的東西也分不清呢 ? 明辨是非才會有勇氣, 殺人越貨需要的是心黑手辣, 什麼人會連這麼顯淺的東西也分不清呢 ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-12806887830724383592013-08-08T23:07:58.630+08:002013-08-08T23:07:58.630+08:00建議參閱 http://billsiu.blogspot.hk/2013/08/blog-post_...建議參閱 http://billsiu.blogspot.hk/2013/08/blog-post_5.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-47210580169244008072013-08-08T22:26:05.628+08:002013-08-08T22:26:05.628+08:00被衝擊一方報警求助, 警察理應分隔雙方以免衝突升級是常識吧被衝擊一方報警求助, 警察理應分隔雙方以免衝突升級是常識吧Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-21711629905682799512013-08-08T22:14:02.723+08:002013-08-08T22:14:02.723+08:00林老師是見義勇為仗義執言的小英雄, 在今時今日的香港已十分罕見, 在神州大地更如鳳毛麟角.林老師是見義勇為仗義執言的小英雄, 在今時今日的香港已十分罕見, 在神州大地更如鳳毛麟角.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-84848349258760206312013-08-08T22:10:34.129+08:002013-08-08T22:10:34.129+08:00"愛字頭系列組織是偽民間組織", 性質類似納粹德國豢養的衝鋒隊."愛字頭系列組織是偽民間組織", 性質類似納粹德國豢養的衝鋒隊.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-12698371420511400912013-08-08T22:07:34.621+08:002013-08-08T22:07:34.621+08:00勇氣當然係珍貴,但如不能明辨是非,再多的勇氣也是徒勞。呀...殺人越貨之徒,一定是有勇氣的人勇氣當然係珍貴,但如不能明辨是非,再多的勇氣也是徒勞。呀...殺人越貨之徒,一定是有勇氣的人Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-23493724887461854652013-08-08T20:15:09.012+08:002013-08-08T20:15:09.012+08:00不是大英雄, 是有勇氣的人, 正常的社會不需要大英雄, 但需要在各階層有類似林老師的人不是大英雄, 是有勇氣的人, 正常的社會不需要大英雄, 但需要在各階層有類似林老師的人Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36942739.post-29253953891176620012013-08-08T17:59:42.787+08:002013-08-08T17:59:42.787+08:00Vic兄﹕恕不敢苟同您一些觀點。人民力量等激進民主派的「衝擊」行動比當日青關會猶有過之。如要警察介入...Vic兄﹕恕不敢苟同您一些觀點。人民力量等激進民主派的「衝擊」行動比當日青關會猶有過之。如要警察介入與當日法輪功和青關會同類的衝突,警察更會大條道理「加強執法」。<br /><br />我贊成爆粗是小事,但也沒必要當林老師是大英雄。Cnoreply@blogger.com